Obviously the BBC and their bodyguards, MI5, have unearthed a cunning SNP plan to subvert the upcoming local elections by pretending to discuss rugby while all the time they will be subliminally converting the true-blue Britnats over to the horrid SNP's chief purpose which is to make the UK government look like a set of puerile, incompetent, war-mongering lackeys under the control of international bankers. Instead of castigating the BBC for uncovering this plot we should celebrate the fact that they have saved us from the ravages of voting for a democratic party that would bring down our loving Westminster. We, the Scots peoples, have been exposed, for far too long, to the temptation of living in a country that cares for its sick, its unemployed and the uneducated.
We think that this match is just a sport played by men with odd shaped balls but in reality it is the essence of English middle-class culture and, therefore, it should not be spoiled by the likes of Alex Salmond whom everyone knows is a kilt wearing, deep fried Mars bar eating, subsidy junkie hell-bent on world domination.
Update:
This link to Newsnet Scotland is well worth reading.
The BBC must be pulling their hair out. No matter what they do these bloody jocks keep voting SNP. So this slight will just be added to the long list of BBC bias and the people responsible will be called to account at some time in the future.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, and it is bound to add to the SNP's membership as well. I sometimes wonder if this is exactly what David Cameron wants. I always thought that he would be loath to be the Prime Minister who lost the Union but the more I see of his loyalty to the City of London the more I begin to think that he doesn't give a 'monkey's' about the Union. I suppose only time will tell. His autobiography just might be worth buying when the time comes.
ReplyDeleteThat's definitely the way to do it.
ReplyDeleteI imagine we've seen the last of the Christmas or New Year's messages from the FM. It's getting very close to 2014, he might mention the "S" word.
Does the 'S' stand for 'shit' which is a good description of the level of unbiasedness the BBC portrays towards the political situation in Scotland. I think you are right and the BBC will get so bad that they will be the laughing stock of any fair-minded person.
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ReplyDeleteWell done BBC why should Alex Salmond be allowed to pontificate on an culturally important sporting event between two regions of the UK.
One must consider the public order implications of Alex Salmond and the snp and their new cry of
being 'Antiscottish'
which may(one hopes not) whip up the nationalist extremists to do some harm off the field of play to our English guests in order to prove their loyalty to the snp.
Will Carling on air today said “The Scots hate the English”.
DeleteLord Foulkes and Lord Forsyth have joined forces and are trying to add undemocratic clauses to the Scotland Bill as a way attacking the SNP and their many of thousand voters.
What does one call them if not anti-Scottish?
Niko,
DeleteWhat 'nationalist extremists'? Unlike the troubles in NI we Scots don't want to go down that path. I would also add, as I have said in the past, that if I were to be approached by anyone who wished to use violence to get our independence then I would be one of the first in the queue to report their threats to MI5.
Until independence comes for my country I am still British and will do all I can to protect my country [UK]. I suspect that the vast majority of independence supporters hold similar views and find using violence to obtain out independence an abhorrent thought. I think your assumption about attacking the English Rugby supporters to show their support for the SNP is just you being stupid again. I don't know how many rugby matches you have actually been to or played in , but I can assure you that it is nothing like football. The referee is called 'sir' or else and the supporters from both sides mix with each other, during and after the game. Football is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans whereas rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen. English rugby supporters have always been welcome in Scotland and the Scots rugby supporters have always been welcome in Twickenham. You're stirring it again. ;-)
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ReplyDeleteThat NNS article was interesting although it seems to have joined in with the re writing of history in respect to RBS.
ReplyDeleteFred bought ABN Amro AFTER Northern Rock collapsed with the first bank run in Britain for a hundred years. It bought ABN AFTER the start of the sub prime collapse in the US. It bought ABN DESPITE widespread warnings and WITHOUT doing any due process.
How can NNS claim that no one could have foretold the banking crash and so give the First Minister a clean bill of health in his support for the takeover ? Wasn't the First Minister previously in banking ? I followed the whole saga from 2000 up until the crash and I'm just a sparky.
The subsequent inquiry into RBS showed that it was heavily into sub prime in the US with it's own 'specialist' office in Washington. This was DESPITE RBS claiming not to be too heavily involved in sub prime at it's AGM and on numerous roadshows.
It's pointless trying to comment this on NNS as they have a stricter deletion and blocking facility than the BBC and are much more biased than them. Try mentioning the global warming scam and the stupidity of the SNP's 100% renewables policies and see how far you get.
NNS seem to have wittled down their commenters to a core group of sycophants. The next step will be to take them wherever they want.
I agree with you about NNS
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As to the ABN and the dates I'll have to check up on that. Pity that you never included any links as it would have saved me time. C'est la vie.
Sorry Ged. here's some links..
ReplyDelete1st bank run for a hundred years at Northern Rock on 14th Sep 07..
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/15245643
Fred manages to grasp ABN Amro against stiff competition from Barclays on 8th Oct 07. Even Bear Sterns ( another doomed bank says it's madness lol)...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7033176.stm
Some warnings of imminent collapse that no one seemed to notice...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/feb/10/abn-amro-columnists-predictions
Winton,
DeleteThanks for the links.
The BBC [in your link above] is dated Oct 2007. Therefore RBS had bought ABN Amro by then. The credit crunch didn't start until 2008:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_crunch_of_2008
so you would think that NNS do have a point. I may not like the people who run it but there sometimes good articles and information floating around the site.
Having said that there must have been signs floating around before all this happened that something wasn't right. I suspect that they [the top bankers] couldn't believe what they were being told and failed to react until it was too late. Either that or they knew exactly what they were doing and sharpening their knives ready to carve up the world's weaker banks, but that can be construed as a conspiracy theory.
Seriously, though, hindsight is a wonderful thing and I suspect that they thought it was a good deal at the time.
The Unionists trying to link Alex Salmond's letter to Fred Goodwin as something to stick in his face is so weak because it was their government which relaxed the rules and took the teeth off the FSA, in the first place.
Ged. The credit crunch started in 2006.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think Northern Rock went bust in September 2007 ? A month before Fred bought ABN Amro ?
Northern Rock could no longer get any funding for it's mortgages because of the credit crunch. This meant they couldn't honour their borrowing costs. They couldn't keep all the plates spinning - handing out 125% mortgages funded by the money markets. The money markets stopped lending as the depth of the sub prime collapse in the US became more apparent. The housing bubble had run it's course.
A credit crunch is when lenders can't lend credit. In September 2007 Northern Rock couldn't lend and couldn't borrow. Or honour it's borrowing. Despite this Fred bought ABN Amro.
As I mentioned before I am sure that there were plenty of signs prior to the crash on credit but that doesn't mean that the banks and governments were ready to accept or even sure that it would be as bad as what it turned out to be. I'm sure, though, that RBS would have thought it a good business move at the time. Even Barclay's board agreed to the take over but their bid lost. At the end of the day it was a good move but at the wrong time. If there is such a thing.
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DeleteI think by the time the N Rock went tits up, if I remember correctly, RBS and Goodwin in particular was in a pissing competition for ABN Amro.
I would liken it to the dealing room in a hedge fund and the smell of testosterone in the air.
There were some words of caution in the markets but the thought of all the lolly ready to be hoovered up muted common sense.
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Lupus.
DeleteYou're right. Fred probably felt invincible. The report into the failure said his acquisition of Nat West a decade earlier had turned out well ( despite no due diligence there either) so he just went for it again hoping the mysteries of ABN Amro would turn out good rather than bad.
His knighthood and letters of support from folk who should have known better pushed him on as well.
We'll agree to disagree Ged.
ReplyDeleteNorthern Rock failed due to a credit crunch ( couldn't get credit, run on the bank by savers, it's sub prime mortgage system was failing, request for help from taxpayers). A month after this RBS bought ABN Amro.
Not sure what else to say about it as I'm obviously not explaining what a credit crunch is.
Winton,
DeleteI'm not disagreeing with you about Northern Rock and its lack of liquidity. I'm just not sure that the world was aware that it was already in the beginnings of the credit crash, at that particular moment in time. Still, it's fun discussing it.
I would have thought that the long queues at NR to take out their savings was a slight clue ;)
DeleteAnd the total stop of any lending due to no credit available at NR.
But you're right. It's fun talking about these things.
I forgot to ask if you had read the Gruinard reports from 2007 re the ABN Amro deal being bonkers amid the credit crunch.
Deletehere's one quote from the time...
Damian Reece, Daily Telegraph
28 July 2007
"Of all the deals we've heard about potentially collapsing because of these jittery markets, surely the pursuit of ABN Amro should be at the top
It seems extraordinary that Barclays and RBS are so desperate to buy this second-division bank at such a massive premium when the world's best banks, such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, are off 14% and 27% respectively in the past month. Right now they are looking wildly expensive and will need renegotiating, otherwise they both face collapse."
Makes you think what the **** was going on. I still haven't made up my mind whether this credit crunch was total con or a set of unfortunate and unforeseen trends. What I do know is that the taxpayer has been ripped off just at the time when we need that money to help us through this recession/depression.
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